Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:01 To advertise, email, podcast at thisismaggie.com. Release yourself from order and logic and enter a new place. It's not work. It's not home. Here, no maps have been drawn. No books have been written. Nothing is certain. Everything is possible. Welcome to Podcast and Chill with Maggi. 00:29 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 00:47 The gang is back together! Hey Shams! Good to see you my lovey lovey! 00:56 It's so good to see you guys as well. Like when someone sits here, it just doesn't... No, they don't sit in our seats. They do! No, we always say we have the other chair for a reason. You know what I mean? But someone else being here... 01:09 Thank you to everyone who always holds us down, but we need each other. The energy's back. 01:15 The synergy and the energy is back. 01:18 And I made a mistake and I said, there's a new shamiso and everyone was just like, no! 01:24 When you weren't here, we said we could never replace you. Come back from time. No, but that's the thing. 01:29 It's figurative. So that's a shamiso spot. There's a new shamiso. There's a new... Yes, for the day. So it was not about the person, but the chair. 01:37 It was not about the person, the chair. 01:40 Yes. 01:43 I must have missed that. So some shams, who's welcome? The girls, the gays, the thems, the theys, and the straight men if they behave. 01:51 Yay! 01:53 Yeah, but yeah, we gotta start on a set note though, just before we get into the fun stuff. 01:57 Yeah, so guys, before we get into today's episode, we'd like to send our heartfelt condolences to Luke Obo, Makwedini and Jaden Adams, their families, their loved ones. Family, friends. And we know you guys are going through a hard time as we eat the room. We are with you guys in the morning. And please, guys, you're right. 02:21 Yeah, shame the whole nation. Such young people. 02:25 Yo, Jurassic Park, Sam Neill as well, has passed away at 73, right? Yeah, if you've seen Jurassic Park later, I'm a dinosaur. Yes, yes. The lead actor apparently passed away today. Oh, today? Yes. Was it yesterday? I think it's today. 02:41 And it's so sad when it's young people. Yeah, yeah. Ish. Ish. 02:46 Did you see even during the World Cup, the match between Norway and England, they actually did like a moment of silence for Jaden. Yes, it was so special. 02:57 I saw that. I even saw Ronaldo. Is that Ronaldo? 03:01 Yes, Ronaldo actually did a video about Jaden and wishing his family well and stuff like that. 03:08 Is it AI? You see, I hate AI. I'm not AI, guys. It really is AI. 03:12 It makes me so uncomfortable. Keep this in. That mistake, keep it in. Because it shows how... Like, there's a picture right now that's doing the rounds, right? Yalo Mama Lona who was supposed to be at the Matlanga Commission in a hospital, in a whatever. 03:24 Oh, yeah? 03:24 Like, it looks so real. I don't know if it's real. 03:27 Yeah, or not. Or not, you know what I mean? 03:29 Because, I mean, she's... 03:31 Apparently ill. And she was supposed to show up at the Magdango commission. But she can't go to the Magdango commission because she is in hospital. And there's a picture out there of her in hospital. But it looks so real. Oh my god. 03:43 So people must actually… Like now when you send your boss a picture in the hospital, your boss… Because you can't come to work. Your boss must be like… Hmm… 03:52 And you know how sometimes you would get these phone calls, right? When somebody's calling you and they drop. You know, apparently, some of these people are using that to get your voice. So they can call your family. So they call you and talk to you for like a minute or whatever. Or a second or whatever. But they are getting your voice. They're cloning your voice. Yes. 04:08 Yeah. 04:09 And then those very same people will call your relatives. They will hack your phone or whatever. And then call your relatives asking for money. Oh, I'm Londi. Your mother's going to hear your voice. 04:22 I heard someone talk about that on baby. I think it was so easy also. 04:25 No, it's getting advanced because sometimes people's WhatsApps get hacked and then obviously it's a text. Yeah. To be like, hi, can I have money or whatever? But the fact that you could even do... 04:35 Because I call you. I'm just like, hey. No, I'll say video call me. I just want to make sure I'm sending them to the right person. 04:40 Remember the incident that happened with me where I ignored my new private banker because I was on some note. Yes, I remember. And my account ended up being frozen because right now, I'm not giving anybody my information. Whether they can call from FNB, call from Discovery. I'm not giving them my personal information. I'm like... I will come there. Yeah, and sort it out. 04:59 If I have an issue with the bank, I'll go there. 05:01 Because now people have so much information about us. People have AI that is now cloning voices and all of that. 05:08 So you're saying our Zulu King should have easily said it's AI. Damn. 05:13 That would have helped. 05:15 Maybe, you know. 05:17 No, that would have solved a lot of issues. 05:21 It's AI. Even if you get caught cheating, I'm sure some guy out there has already said to his girl, I, babe, that's AI. Club pictures or whatever the case may be. So it's very dangerous. 05:31 Yeah, we're going to get back to that later. But I just want to read something to you girls. So that you understand, it's our roomies sometimes. Yeah, that's when we crash out, innit? Okay, let's go. So one of our roomies sent me this message. So I was getting cooked. I was getting cooked on Twitter, right? Because I decided, I'm appealing. Wait. 05:52 Sorry. 05:53 I'm a citizen of this country. Right. So I decided to go into the lion's den. 05:57 And one of the EFF members did a post. And it may not be me. I went there and said, read the room. 06:06 And I got cooked by the red berets. Yeah. 06:11 I was called all sorts of names. 06:14 But yeah, you know. Hey, they came for me, came for me, came for me. Which at some point I didn't care. You know, I'm like, okay, whatever. Were you responding though? His dog would holler. No, I was not responding. Until this one. This one caught my attention, right? Because it's a roomie, right? He says... 06:31 But my ick with you, Phil, is that you really always soft parents or topics that involve promiscuity on Rita Room. 06:38 You never call BS. 06:41 And I feel like omoholu for such, like you own for such. It's really not a bad thing to have a moral compass, eh? Whether people are doing it, protected or not. 06:56 I know what he's on about. Why are you so mad, though? 07:01 Thank you, Rumi, for watching the show. And thank you for that wonderful feedback. But here's a thing, guys. 07:06 You always have to… I mean, I try not to police other people, especially adults. Yeah. Sexual behavior and whatever, you know. And we're always very cautious. That's why we always joke, do that! 07:18 Yeah. 07:18 You know, you always want to put that in your heart. Be safe, you know. But at the end of the day, I don't like, personally, I don't like policing other people's bedrooms. Mm. That's why even with my content as an entertainment commentator, I've always stayed away from personal relationships. I've never reported on people's relationships and all of that. I've only reported on their work. Because once you start trying to police other people's relationships, then you're opening a door for people to police your own relationships. 07:45 And hey, honey, I want my distinct set to be private. Your buffebe or your non-buffebe should be yours. 07:50 I mean, we judge you. 07:52 Exactly. That's the thing. 07:54 That's the thing. So Rumi, I'm sorry you feel that way. Thank you so much for watching. 07:57 No, you're not sorry. I'm not sorry. 07:59 No, I am sorry in a way, you know, because... What are you sorry for? For disappointing, Rumi. But I'm not going to change. 08:06 Everyone is allowed to their opinion. Exactly. That's Rumi's opinion. Yes. 08:10 So I'm sorry that Rumi's disappointed. 08:13 I'm sorry for that. But I'm not sorry about where I stand. That's why I had to defend it and tell her. I will always stand where I stand. I will never ever tell somebody what to do with their own bodies. And affirm my own moral compass on somebody else. Impose my own prudish… 08:30 We'll see later. I'm not a therapist. 08:32 You know what I mean? 08:32 Don't be dumb, Ruby. You know? Hey, do what you want to do. 08:35 Yes, we've always promoted safe sex as well and consent and all of those good things. But, 08:52 If you want to do what you got to do, that's fine. Was this a DM though? I don't understand that. No, it was a tweet. Okay, so you... I'm saying I was getting cooked by the EFF people. 09:01 This has nothing to do with the show. 09:03 That's what I'm saying. Where does that come in? Where does that come in? 09:07 I think he or she just saw me getting cooked. I'm like, let me go cook him. But I don't want to cook him about politics. 09:12 I want to cook him about... Yeah, man. About to read the room. But yeah, man. 09:15 But thank you for watching. Tell your friends to watch too, man. There's people who are... Love it. 09:21 I love it. Yeah. Phil, can you explain why were you being cooked? Because… Ah, Emmanuel. 09:27 I love it. 09:28 It's politics, guys. We don't want to talk about politics, do we? 09:30 No, because… Why did you say they must read the room? 09:33 Oh, God. We've got to get serious now. Because here's the thing, right? So I'm a Pan-Africanist, right? And I've had the pleasure and the privilege of being able to travel to other African countries, right? Yes. So I understand the whole concept of treating other African people like we would treat our own brothers and sisters. I do get that. I am against violence. I'm against people being treated in harsh and unnecessarily, you know, out-of-pocket ways, right? But at the same time, I am a South African. Yes. 10:04 You understand? And understand the struggles that our South Africans have to deal with. So when Umama and Makaya tell you, I'm hearing stories, they couldn't go to a clinic because the clinic could not accommodate them because it was food. Mm-hmm. That hits. You understand? When South African youth are telling you that we cannot get opportunities because yes, we have the thing, the means and whatever. But because the pool of opportunities is now so saturated, you don't feel like you belong in your own country. 10:37 You know, basically what I was saying is that The people are saying, we are hating. 10:45 Can we just hear them out instead of just dismissing them as, you know, this is driven by propaganda. That's where I was... So the EFF people, they come and say, hey... They always support... You know, you are xenophobic. You're supporting xenophobia. And it's not about two things can be right at the same time. Like for instance, you can support GVV, but still want all parties, male or female, to be held accountable for their actions. 11:08 Yes. Yes. You understand? 11:10 You can support anything against a man, you know, being violent to a woman and stuff like that. But still be able to say, but we also need to ask questions. What happened and all of that. So you get what I'm saying? So this thing, Yahore, you must pick a line between black and white. 11:26 That's what the person is saying. You support Buffet, man. 11:30 So basically, it was that. I was simply saying that thing, Yahore, let's read the room as South Africans. You understand? Yahore, A lot of us who live privileged lives, there are certain experiences that will never touch us, that we will never understand. 11:44 And when our people are saying, we are hating, this situation that is happening in South Africa right now affects us negatively. Just because it doesn't mean, does not mean that I mustn't hear my own people. And to hear my own people does not mean that I am anti, you know, other people. So basically that was that. 12:01 these are things that are done all over the world thank you very much as soon as your visa expires you are banned from other countries from coming for the next 5 years or 10 years but like we as South Africans have been open to people coming in our country so yeah it's a very touchy and we'll continue to be my love we'll continue to be we will continue because there's a thing the propaganda sometimes drowns out yeah 12:23 the actual facts. Majority of the people are not saying we don't want non-South Africans in our country at all. They're just saying like, let people be documented. Let's know how many people we have here so that we know if our resources are going to be able to handle that. 12:38 I actually had a conversation with someone today that said their husband is from somewhere in Africa. And I was like, okay, but where are the documents? And then she said, it's not as easy as people say it is. to actually get the papers. To just get your papers. 12:53 Yeah, so that's what I guess this whole thing is about. But what is not easy? And then what? Come back legally or with papers. Exactly. 13:01 Even a simple thing of documentation because here's the thing, right? You look at, for instance, crime. If somebody's undocumented in South Africa, right? When they commit a crime, where are they going to be found? 13:09 Ah, we also have a story on that. You know what I mean? Remember? Yeah. 13:15 So stuff like that. If you don't know how many people are in the country, how are you going to be able to make sure that the budgets that you are allocated? Because our constitution says everybody who's in South Africa has the right to access our medical, you know, facilities and all of that, right? Which is a beautiful thing. Yes. You know, beautiful, beautiful thing. But now, if you don't know how many people are in the country, how are you going to be able to have the infrastructure? You won't accommodate for everyone. Yeah, but anyway, we're not trying to be too deep in politics. Hey, Mohaw! 13:46 Mohaw! Mohaw! Why'd you ask? 13:48 This is not Frank with Mac! 13:50 No, but listen, but thank you for that though. No, but thank you for that. But thank you for that. People will say, oh, you know, these famous people and whatever, you know, they never say anything. But the moment we step up and actually say stuff, stick to. 14:04 Anyway, no face, no case, ladies. No face, no case. 14:10 I don't have one. Where have you been? Let's talk about that. 14:14 Okay, so I was in Durban, went for the July. It was vibes, vibes, vibes. And then ended up doing like a family vacay with my partner's family and the kids and all that because they're on school holidays, some of them. So it was a vibe. We didn't leave Zimbabwe at all, really. We just went to the restaurants, the pools and whatever. And obviously, it's been so cold in Joburg from what I've heard that I'm glad that I got to get away. But like, you know, because we're both like rock stars, I was like, okay, we're going to Durban for like nine days. I want to come back feeling well rested. 14:47 But that's not what we do. 14:49 Ash, but you need the holiday after the holiday. 14:51 Yes, I need the holiday after the holiday. Like I came back wounded, hungover, anxious because like we're both busy bodies. You know what I mean? There was days we were like, no, we can't just… We're in this beautiful, massive house. But there's days we were like, no, we can't chill in the house. Let's go do this. Let's take the golf cart. Let's go for drinks. Let's go listen to music, whatever. And we were around like three young kids. Yeah. Which was very overstimulating. Loved them to bits. But the parents, there was a time where my boyfriend's sister-in-law was like hiding from her kids. Because they were in the house. 15:22 And they were looking for her. And she was like, can he see me? You would swear he was the danger. Like, can he see me? can you see me you know it does get a lot I do that sometimes I do hide from it yeah I would lock myself in my room I go in the bathroom and say oh mommy's using the bathroom mommy's pooping yeah just to mommy are you pooping yes but they want to be in the bathroom with you that's the thing and there's like there was a nanny per child but they don't want the nanny whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 15:49 Yeah. You can't just say that and just gloss over it. What do you mean? Nanny per child? Yes, there were three nannies. Three nannies for three kids? Oh, that's a bit… Hey man, my boyfriend's brother is an attorney. Nanny per child? Which means that every nanny now had to have their own room. How big is your house? 16:08 No, so the nannies… The one kid was with his best friend. That's his best friend's child. In a separate house. And the house we were in… It was, yeah, a nanny per kid, but they had rooms and then they would have the kids cot next to you. 16:23 But I mean like their actual house. How many rooms? Oh, and their actual house is quite big. How big is this house? 16:27 That's why I said my boyfriend's brother is an attorney, guys. Okay, attorney. Married attorney, happily married attorney. 16:35 How old are these kids? 16:36 Two and three years old. Okay, it makes sense. They were terrorizing us, you know, when they're at the age where… Terrible twos. Yes, you play with them and then they… Again! I did Ringer Ringer Rosie so many times. I said, sure, I need to hide from them now. Like… So that's where I was. 16:51 Quick one. How was your… Because you weren't here last week. Yes. So I'm just curious to know… Experience-wise, right? 1 to 10. Because you gave it what? 8, right? 7. 7. 1 to 10. Your experience at the July. Experience. Not fashion. Your experience of being there. 17:06 Yeah. I enjoyed it because once we got there, we went straight to the marquee we were supposed to be at. 17:12 Everything was obviously like sorted because my partner was curating it. So we were comfortable. We had the tags we needed to have. And I didn't have to open up. 17:21 For me, I don't understand Durban July. Sorry, no shade. I was only going there as a supporting act. So I wouldn't go just on my own. But I don't understand why we must open up this place. 17:31 Wait, so you stayed at one marquee? 17:33 Yeah, I stayed at the one marquee he was curating. And then he was DJing in the one right next door. So it wasn't a big walk. But I don't understand this thing of having to wear heels and dress up. to drag around this place. Like, rather if it was more of like an athletic event. It's parties within a party. No, I don't understand if it was an athletic event. 17:50 But your rating? 17:51 Okay, my rating, I would say... 17:55 I've had worse German July. So I would give it, I'd give it an eight maybe. 17:59 Yeah. 18:00 I have no complaints. Let me say that. And the weather was kind to us and all that. But I just don't like the concept of being uncomfortable and having to walk. And you couldn't wear boots this time. Exactly. 18:10 The theme allowed. I was just like, yes. I wore these very boots. 18:14 I wore these very boots. So at least there was that. But otherwise. 18:17 The boot situation was on. No. 18:20 Otherwise, no. Phil, you don't like German July? 18:23 I don't. 18:24 Do like it if I'm getting paid to be there. The reason why I wasn't there this year is because I usually would go there with brands that I would like. For instance, I've been going with Ona. But Ona because DJ Taylor did not have my keys. 18:37 But he had the hotbox thing. 18:40 Yeah, but it was not his thing. 18:42 You know what I mean? He had like a party. Was it hotbox? 18:45 I don't want to say it wrong. 18:47 He had like one of the biggest parties. 18:49 Yeah, so I'm not… First of all, I don't walk the red carpet like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't do that either. So, it wouldn't make sense for me to spend my own money. Because it wasn't like a red carpet like that. 18:59 But to take pictures, like walking and having those moments. 19:02 Yeah, it wouldn't make sense for me to spend my own money to go to Devon July. 19:06 Okay, it's about the money. It's not about the carpets. 19:09 Yeah, of course it's about the money. 19:11 I've got a lot of better things to spend my money on. Do you know who you're talking to? So why didn't you mention the carpet first? Just say it's about the money. 19:18 No, no, no. Because if I was a kind of personality that dives the red carpet, then it would be worth my while to be in that sport. I would be having a designer and having to showcase that. Yeah. Because it's expensive. It's expensive to do for free. That's what I get with you saying. 19:32 Very expensive. Why must I go there and waste this money on hair, makeup? 19:38 But how much did you spend on your dress? People were talking about how much they were spending on your hair. 19:42 Yeah, we under would say 100,000. 19:45 We were talking about that. The underwoods. 19:47 No, because she said she's going to be a repeat of last week's episode. Come on now. We're not. I'm just saying. 19:54 Get it together. Okay. What's been happening? I don't know about that. 19:57 I don't know about that. I didn't know about that. But shout out to everybody who broke the bank. Me personally, I'm never going to be doing that for some event. I don't really. 20:08 Apparently, no matter how dressed I could have been at the Durban July, I'll never trend on things. 20:13 Who said that? 20:14 Let's not go there. Let's not go there. Who said that? Tahi said that. Anyway. 20:19 Why is he coming? 20:20 Why are you bringing it up? 20:22 I was just saying something that was said. 20:24 He doesn't get tired of talking about you. I'll never drink. 20:28 He doesn't get tired of talking about you or what? He loves me down. Tahi, it's fine. I love you too. 20:34 That's it. And I opened that can of worms. She had not seen it. 20:38 I'm not even sure. 20:40 I'll never trade nothing. That was so funny. 20:42 Like, what the hell? Okay, I don't think that's the aim, but okay. 20:47 Okay, let's talk about some positive stuff, right? So we've got a new show that is internet. Like, you know what? 20:55 I just don't understand why he likes talking about you so much. 20:59 Like, what did you do to him, dude? I have no idea. Is this a smear campaign? Like, who paid him? No, but this one was funny. Who sent you? 21:06 There were so many people at the gym. 21:10 Who sent you? Do the skis. Whatever she did, I'm sorry. Sorry, I'm sorry. 21:14 Ah, fuck you. You're like, say we're right. I fuck you. Right, road to two million. Oh, the roast. Guys, don't forget to vote for me. The roast. Laundi Landon podcast, triple three, two nine. Thank you. Yeah, I'm so like, oh my God. My makeup. No, not your makeup. Girl, you need, next thing, you can grind off, but you'll never trend on TikTok. 21:42 Who's aim is it to trend on TikTok? What is the bar here? Is TikTok the bar? That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm laughing so hard. We have different bars, but I'm sure it'll be addressed at the roast on the road to 2 million. Maybe we'll finally get the answers as to what's happening and why. Damn. Let me not put myself on his radar. 22:08 Guys. 22:09 On TikTok, Nohel. That's such a 2K thing to say. 22:13 TikTok pays, eh? When you're turned on TikTok, you get paid. Really? No. 22:19 Depends. If it's from your page, maybe. 22:23 Oh, no, everyone. I was asking for myself. 22:25 I don't love you that much. 22:26 Child, I'm crying, okay? 22:31 No, the thing is that I don't want to rub my eyes. 22:33 I'm in tears. 22:34 No, because we just came from a photo shoot right now. I'm still wearing makeup, so I don't want to rub my eyes. 22:40 I don't want to mess my makeup up. 22:41 I don't want to rub my eyes because what if... Next thing, I'm trending on TikTok. 22:45 Finally, at least you would have achieved something, Londi. Because that's the bomb. 22:49 All right. Do we still have a show? 22:50 Shop, let's go. Spinners, what's been happening, therefore? 22:54 That's crazy. No, let's start with Invisible. There's a new show coming up, guys, called Invisible. And it's got some of the biggest names in South African entertainment industry in the acting field. And yeah, man, it's got Tony Koroge. It's got... Is it Tony Koroge? Yo, hey, my beard. 23:08 Yeah. 23:08 Guys, it's been a long day. 23:10 Oh, it's got Dimitra Masha. It's starting in the Sifigezi. Is it Mende or Mende? Yeah. As well as Kim Engelbrecht. So it's a show that is now a collaboration with some big names. I think there's a lady from Australia that is the lead on the show and another guy from Scotland. Yeah. 23:35 So I'm glad that we're seeing DSTV also still doing that because they've done it before. They've done it with the Recipes for Matters where it was a collaboration between international and South Africans and all of that. But another quick thing that is not on our script but I just remembered now, ETV is going to be putting out a super app. 23:55 Okay. 23:56 You know how show makes? Yeah. So they're putting out an app like that, but it's still going to be mobile. They're going to be testing it out. But now they're going to start with other countries beside South Africa first. So it's not going to be available in South Africa as yet. 24:09 So EVOD isn't that? EVOD is still that. I was going to say, isn't that EVOD? 24:14 I love it when you ask the relevant questions. Okay. 24:18 Hold on just a second. So this app basically, right, it's going to be, they're intending it to be like a show mix. Remember, E-Vote is just local content. It's just African content and, you know, your American films and all of that, right? But it's mainly local content, right? With this new app that they are now testing out and now going to be rolling out in other countries, right? It's going to have African content on it. Oh, that's right. That's why I'm comparing it to show mix. 24:45 So why could we get it? 24:47 Because they're still testing it out. 24:48 So to start at home. 24:51 I don't understand. 24:52 Why can't we see what's... Guys, ETV's not paying me to explain this too much. Here's the thing. Press the release. I've got to press the release. Yeah. E-media. E-media. Come, come, come pay us. Then we'll be able to explain to your audience properly. 25:07 Okay, so there's E-VOD and E-media now. 25:09 Yes, so you've got E-VOD that is still going to be available in South Africa to a South African, you know, market, right? And then you've got this app. It's got its own name. It's called Open View Stream. Sure. 25:20 Okay. 25:21 So remember you still have Open View Stream. Open View Stream. That is now going to be available. It's going to be tested out in Kenya, Ghana, Rwanda, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia, and Mauritius. Right? It's going to be tested out in those markets. Namibia and Botswana have it? Yes. 25:36 I don't understand the logic in that. It's like what they only want to bring it if they feel like it's super good. Yeah. 25:41 No, because they know we don't like being lived up. They know we don't like being lived up. 25:44 You see, I didn't want to say that because now we're going to get somewhere. I didn't want to say, maybe we do because they know that South African audiences are so used to your, you know, premium. 25:53 Yeah. 25:53 You know? No, but it's true, guys. We are the only country in Africa that has DSTV+. Oh. Did you know that? No. 26:01 I was in Kenya. I'm trying to look into my DSTV Plus. Says, not available in your country. 26:07 But Shomax also did that, man. For real. But Namibia has. 26:11 Does it? I've never been to Namibia, so I wouldn't know. 26:13 Namibia has. Botswana has. I know. Because I see what the ratings of my show plays in. 26:18 Oh, yes, yes. No, but that's DSTV. We're talking about DSTV. 26:24 Disney Plus. 26:25 Oh, you said DSTV Plus. You said DSTV. Names, well, get it together. It's been a long day. 26:33 It's been a long day. That's why I have you guys to correct me. 26:37 Do you think if it goes well and it does what they wanted to do in other countries, they'll merge the two or keep them separate still? 26:44 Inevitably, it's gone. gonna be in South Africa anyway I think they're just trying to make sure that it is proper and whatever because I know for a fact like for instance E-Media has been working on getting remember that E-Vot is only mobile yes they've been working on and you can only get it on I think it's Hisense TV like yeah Samsung LG no I was Samsung LG you couldn't get it on that but now I think in the next couple of months maybe a month or two you will be able to get like E-Vot and the SuperWatt one so maybe they're also struggling with this one Hey, listen. 27:18 E-Media, send somebody to come and explain because I can't be doing this. You're not paying me. Oh, because we're just like, what's going on? Guys, I'm just telling the Roomies. Roomies, there's a new super app that has been developed in South Africa. That you're not going to get to watch? That is still coming. 27:33 It's not so super if we don't have it. Like... Why was it news for us? 27:38 It's news because South African companies are in a time right now where we are dealing with people saying boycott South African products. But there are other people that are still making efforts to make sure that we as a content industry, we're still together and whatever. You get what I'm saying? That's why we were celebrating the other day that Udumisan is on a new show with the Kenyans. When is this app going live? It's going live. Thank you for asking. Hey. 28:03 Guys, we didn't bring him to promote this app. 28:05 Why are we telling them when is it going live? 28:09 If you're going to say it, just finish it. 28:12 There's an app that is developed by eMedia. The owners of eTV. And it's going to be in Zambia. 28:20 But not in South Africa yet. But it's coming in South Africa very soon. 28:24 Thank you very much. Spin us! 28:29 This could be next year, next month. 28:31 No, it's in a month or so. A month or so. Yeah, but now it's going to launch in these countries that I mentioned first. Okay, cool. For whatever reason. 28:40 that they will explain when they feel like you. 28:41 I think we've been through Spinners. You've already said it. 28:44 There's an Australian... That was not Spinners. That was... Invincible. Invincible. Spinners season two. We have a date. It's coming on the 25th of October. Spinners, there. I'm done. Let's talk about something else. Fashion. The four of us. 28:57 The four of us. I don't want to talk about the four of us. Have you guys watched the series? I just heard that it's pop. 29:04 I mean, they have star actors, actresses. 29:07 See, the reason why I didn't want to talk about The Four of Us, right, is because it feels like it's a pile-on. You know, I don't want to be piling on because the reality, guys, is that I am sorry. 29:16 This show is… Maybe it will pick up. 29:21 There's a scene going around. It's a lot going around. That's why it's problematic. What's the other one that Tim Mikosi was on? Homecoming. 29:32 There's Homecoming, but he also did that other Suti one. 29:36 Do you feel like it's two stars studied or what? 29:40 If you asked me the same question last week, I would have said yes. But now, I've seen... Because I stopped watching it, right? So I've been seeing some of these scenes that people are clipping and putting on whatever. And I am sorry. There's a scene right now with Cindy and... Ooh, Aisha. I watched it. I took a good nap. Oh, Cindy. 29:59 I took a fabulous nap. Respectfully. Oh, like literally, it's reducing. What, it was boring or you were traumatized by the acting? 30:07 No, there's nothing happening. 30:09 Oh, okay. And look, and the acting at some point becomes very mediocre. Gimmicky. That's the word I was looking for. It becomes very gimmicky. 30:17 It's giving Nigerian, you know, like... What, like a Nollywood film? It's giving Nollywood... 30:22 I wonder what went wrong then. And then the dad's video really pissed me off. Because I'm just like, you know this guy's not capable of running your company. 30:30 Okay, anyway, guys. So we can trend, please, guys. You know what, James, right? 30:38 The problem that why we are very racist, because, okay, for me personally, right? 30:43 a lot of people are complaining about the show. You get what I'm saying? So it feels like it's a dead horse. We're beating a dead horse because everybody has said, you know, it's not giving. It's not giving. It's terrible. The acting is bad, actually. We can say that. It's bad for people who are so talented. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 31:01 It's like they're all just overwhelmed. Like everything, everything should work. Or is it the script writing you think that's making it bad? But also it's sad. 31:07 So Tata can, it's shown what they can do 31:12 Because even the first 30 minutes of the show, Lindy was in Paris. Next thing she's back home, the dad is dead. Now he's flirting with the other brother's wife. I'm just like... 31:33 We don't know why she's drinking so much. It sounds like a rushed job then. 31:40 Let's say positive things. I'm saying it sounds like it's giving like rushed job. Yeah. Which I don't understand why it's a telenovela. You're going to have 200 and something episodes anyway. Yeah. So what are you rushing to? 31:51 On the positive side though, the township family, there's something there. I feel like there's something there. Like, you know, the Rami side of the storyline. Yeah. With a brother. Yeah, with a... 32:04 But he has a side chick and then he has a wife. 32:07 But no, but I feel like Rami's character and that family unit... It's making sense to you. There's something there. 32:14 I was happy to see Doja Cat's dad back on TV. Yeah. 32:18 I don't support deadbeat, so... I mean, as someone who has one, I'm allowed to be anti-deadbeat. Sorry. I don't support maniacs like that. Especially, you know what I mean? 32:32 Are you still going? Yeah. 32:33 What is he going to do to me? 32:35 How? Are you going to ground me or what? What's happening? 32:42 We told you. We're back. No, I'm back. I'm back. You're happy to see him on TV. 32:52 I'm going to check out the four of us tonight. When I get home to try sleep. Because I think… Good luck. No, honestly, I feel like you can tell when a show is bad within the first… Like you said, within the first episode. If it doesn't capture you… I give a show like two or three episodes. 33:06 But if I feel like… And when I miss grading… Yeah, the grading on the first episode is horrible. They look so brown. On Netflix. 33:13 On Netflix. 33:18 What production is that? It says, that's why... Oh yeah, I saw the cartoon. 33:23 I couldn't believe it. They are so good, bro. I was like, it can't be. 33:29 No, so on Netflix though, surely they still have the Netflix standard that like, go and reshoot this because this doesn't look... I think they just saw the cost. 33:37 Probably later on because I think the Netflix deal came... 33:42 as this thing had already shot, maybe probably like… Did they shoot it after or before The Polygamist? Yes. 33:47 Do we know if they shot it before or after The Polygamist? Possibly at the same time. 33:51 Yeah. 33:52 You know, because Oolona… Stumo is still in character. He's still in character. 33:58 I'm like, he needs to snap out of us. No, if I saw the polygamist, I'd be like, actually, guys, are we sure we want to drop this? Because the polygamist was great. I liked it, you know. 34:07 The polygamist was amazing. No, but I think the e-media, because Ula Na O, Luyanda did say, they showed this like last year, the October or something like that. 34:16 I think the e-media deal only happened this year. You know, because they only announced it, you know, like two weeks ago, a week ago, that, you know, they've got this deal with Netflix. I think they wanted that. And they haven't given them anything yet as far as I know but I think the other projects that are in the works that are going to be going because it's not just the four of us that's going to be going to Netflix. There are other shows that are produced by Under E-Media or that are Under E-Media. I think they were riding the polygamist wave. 34:46 Do you think there should be a gap between like... an actor shooting one project in another because you're saying he's still a character. 34:53 No, it can't be because he has a problem. On screen, on TV, it might be back to back. But this person maybe shot this thing a year ago. A year ago. For instance, I was so shocked. I was listening to Kaya. Was it Kaya? Where's Fresh at now? Kaya. Yeah. I was listening to Kaya FM and Ura Ami was on Kaya FM and she was talking about she hasn't worked in three years. I'm like, what do you mean you haven't worked in three years? We've been seeing you. You know what I'm saying? And she's like, no, I thought I was blackballed because I speak too much. I talk too much. And I thought I was blackballed. 35:23 I love her. Because I was not working. I had not worked for three years. 35:26 I'm like, oh, okay. 35:27 But yeah, so people could be on screen back to back. 35:32 Because you know, obviously some people are method actors and like someone will go and chill with a person in a mental institution to kind of try to play that character. So maybe he's just locked into Jonas right now. You know what I always say? 35:46 But now I always have to catch myself because we live in a country where a lot of actors don't have the luxury of picking projects. Yeah. Because you need the money. You don't need so much that you can sit and say, no, I'm not going to do that. 35:59 I'm not going to take that one. 36:00 I'm not going to take that one. You get what I'm saying? My last one paid me enough. But I wish we had gotten to that level because I feel like certain people do deserve that break. Because I don't think that when Cindy Latu and even Ulona… Who's the other guy on the four of us? The handsome one. Temikos. Temikos. For instance, I'm sure when Temikos read the script for this, he was like, I'm playing the same character that I've been playing. 36:26 Because there's nothing new in there. 36:28 You get what I'm saying? And he gets lost. For me, he actually gets lost in the crazy. Outlaws. 36:33 He did great on Outlaws. 36:35 He gets lost because I'm just seeing Temikos. I saw people think about the Nazi thing with Lorde. But because I've seen us do more, get into different characters so much. I don't see it as much. I just see bad acting on all the leads, right? For this show, for the four of us. I just see bad script, bad acting, over the top for no reason. 36:58 It looks as if they almost had to wait for each other to do the script. It's like, okay, just say your line. 37:03 Because for me, it's forgettable. And if you look like that, Ute Mungosi, on the four of us, I keep on forgetting that he's even on the show. 37:12 It's his character. So do you think that there's typecasting that happens in the South African industry? That's a point that we're trying to make. Why are they not being casted as different people? 37:21 You're getting the script as you're telling me, and you're like, this is not doing much. But hey, you know what? It's paycheck. 37:28 And you are now in a situation where like, I just need the thing. 37:30 Maybe we need to get Tim Gossett to come here and explain. 37:32 Yeah. No, but actors are very fidgety about being able to talk about that. You know what? 37:38 Actors are very PR. They don't like to let loose. 37:42 And a lot of South African performers are still very sensitive. The only actor, actress in South Africa that has always been consistent about not being too sensitive about their work and about their career is Ukan Yimbao. I will give Kanien Bawa her roses for the day I die. 37:56 I think she needs to get more roles. 37:58 She's so good. Kanien Bawa takes criticisms. You know Kanien Bawa can sit here with you and you tell her that, you know what, that show that you did was shit. She's got thick skin. It's not just thick skin, she understands. 38:12 The industry. She understands that art has to be critiqued. Yes. In a smaller way, also Connie Ferguson has that. Like I said, Connie Ferguson never takes anything… Why smaller way? Smaller way in that, I mean, she has not done a lot of… projects like that. And she doesn't do a lot of interviews like that. On that rare occasion when she's doing an interview or whatever, she's able to take critique of her company, Ferguson Films. She's able to take critique of whatever. And I really appreciate that. 38:43 But for a lot of actors in South Africa, they're very sensitive about… 38:48 critique. Is it Erykah Badu's line where she says, I'm an artist. Just know I'm an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit. But I'm also like, you're right. Art is there to be critiqued. We're not all going to like Drake's album or we're not all going... You know what I mean? So it's like... So put work out there and then be offended that there's some people who are just like, you know, I actually don't feel it. Like, I actually liked your other album more. I felt like it was more relatable. And that's okay. It should be okay. 39:15 I love Inimba so much. I think Inimba is so good. But I never want to comment about it on thingy. On social media. Because they will come for you. Because they're fan base, bro. Oh my god. I don't understand. 39:27 How can you be mad? Especially if you're not being disrespectful. You're just saying, I actually liked, I was like, for example, I was listening to Drake a lot over this past week. And I like, I literally said to my partner, I'm like, yo, listening to this old Drake, like, there's so many lines that we're like singing with our chest because we're like, that was so relatable. But then I'm like, but he did say in a, newish song where he says, I'm getting so rich, my music's not even relatable. So he even said, I'm not going to be that, I'm not relatable anymore. 39:55 No, he's not that guy. 39:56 And that's fine. You know, because I'm not that guy. So I don't understand being touched if someone's not being disrespectful. Just to be like, I didn't really like how you played it. 40:04 You know? I blame Big Brother. 40:07 Big Brother? 40:08 No, this whole thing started with Big Brother. This whole thing of people who watch... 40:11 Toxic fandoms. Toxic fandoms started with Big Brother. 40:14 And then they took it from Big Brother. Now they're putting it on fictional shows. But anyway... 40:20 Okay, so in the world of fashion, on a lighter note... On a lighter note. But everybody looks fabulous today. We... 40:30 I think we should do shoots every day before we come home. Before we come here, just so that we can be moveless. 40:37 But before we get into fashion, let's pay the bills. Oh, yes. 40:42 We're going to pay some bills. Well, thank you, Lundi, for that. Yeah, man. The world's biggest soccer spectacle is at an all-time high and it's time to prove you are more than just a fan. Welcome to the Soccer Panthers Challenge, the ultimate test for your football knowledge. We are putting a massive 5 million range jackpot on the line. Think you can outsmart dependents and call the game? 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I need to get my soccer knowledge up because I want to enter also. You know what I mean? I need to make the right predictions. 42:06 Have you ever gambled though? 42:08 Yes. Just like for fun, like not even like a crazy amount. You know, like to start off with Baccarat, it's only like 200 grand. 42:16 So maybe let's say... That's a lot even. To start off, no. Probably start with like a 10 rand. 42:21 No, there's tables that are like really expensive. So that one I've gone like with my cousin, we've both withdrawn 600 rand each. Just played. And then when you lose, you leave because obviously it's not something, you know, so it has to be done responsibly, you know. Yeah. So for me, I've gotten up to like maybe like two grand and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to go to a restaurant after this. And, you know, I'm not going to lose my mind. Yeah. 42:46 If you love sports, why not get paid to watch sports? 42:49 I always get jealous of people that win on radio. Yes, in those competitions. Someone wants 17K on radio on Friday. On what? On Tanto Tabete Show? No, on Metro. Because I heard them giving away. On Thibaut Touch, 17,000. 43:05 Let's play those quizzes, man. 43:07 I'm like, there's no way. I'm trying to call. Don't worry. 43:12 So where are we going now? Back to London. 43:15 Yeah, we're going back to fashion. So, tennis was the order of the weekend. Did you guys see it? I did. When last did you guys go to a tennis event or match? Have you guys ever? 43:27 No, I played tennis in school because my mom forced me. Yeah. But I've never been to a tennis game, actually. It's the one sport I haven't watched. 43:34 The biggest tennis game I've been at was the one in Cape Town when Roger was there, Bill Gates, Trevor Noah. 43:43 Oh, is this the one that was organized by Trevor Noah and Dabo? 43:45 Yes, I was sitting right there inside VVRP with my mom. 43:49 Smell you. 43:50 It was the best experience ever. You know, that's when I got like a taste of what like a proper tennis match. When they say tennis town, this is what they're talking about. It's luxe, you know, tailored suits. You know, everybody has to look proper. It's like quiet luxury. And do you know tennis players get paid more than golfers? 44:13 Really? Topic for another day. Date a tennis player. 44:17 Shit, can we edit that out? 44:28 There's the other one who was accused of things. 44:37 You're always just dragging the PBL hands. 44:41 Why am I in it? 44:42 No, they're removing all of this anyway. 44:44 No, but that's a wrong name, guys. I don't want to get sued. It's not her. It's the other one. Who's the other one? The one that was on all the smokes. 44:53 Eva Modica. 44:53 No, the other one. Eno. Eno. It's Eno who's been accused like... Of what? Of blocking the girls with... Tennis players. Not tennis players. Oh, tennis! The joke even flew over their heads. 45:08 No, it's not my game anyway. 45:13 Clock it. I wouldn't know. 45:15 Anyway, as we go back to the A-Max tennis towel... 45:21 Something those people know nothing about. It's American Express. 45:30 I'm going to be the one crying next. 45:32 I'm not that guy. 45:34 I'm not that guy. Guys, can we get back to the show? 45:39 So, MX Tennis Town is an American Express event, right? So... 45:45 There was the one in London, right? The final was on Sunday in London. We had a few of our girdies there. But also they did host one at Monte Casino via NetBank. Because NetBank actually works hand in hand with American Express in South Africa. So they were the ones that hosted it in South Africa. So we weren't invited. 46:09 Tough crowd. 46:10 Hey, we were invited to the Liv one though. No. We just couldn't make it for some… What was happening? Did you fly somewhere? That was golf. I'm just saying. Yeah. Elevated situations. No, but this one was a bit more… Oh, there was a hip-hop tour that day. I would have loved to be invited to the netbag. More glamorous than the Liv. Yeah. 46:28 Oh, okay. Yeah, way more. Like there you had people fighting. Remember? 46:33 Oh yes, those guys. 46:35 This one was classy. So even though tennis players are known to wear white, it doesn't mean that people that attend the event are supposed to wear white. It's just about the tailoring, clean lines, quiet luxury, sophistication and all of that. So at Monte Cassino, the one that was hosted locally, we had our girl Tando Tabete. She was wearing Diane Paris, if I'm not mistaken. She looked amazing. She's been killing these looks lately, hey? 47:03 Are they just living their best life right now? Like, she's glowing. She's all over the place. 47:07 Is it the boyfriend? The man? 47:08 Possibly. You know, love, love, love. Apparently, they could be engaged. 47:11 I saw them in German, but I don't know. Maybe I'm manifesting. 47:18 Yeah, there's an element of when you're happy, it shows in everything that you do. Your physical look, your fashion as well. And I think they were together during the World Cup. 47:28 They were everywhere. She looked amazing. I'm happy for her. I love it. 47:34 And then we had our favorite girl here. 47:38 I think she was there with the hubby. Hubby Cakes? Is that Hubby Cakes, right? 47:44 Yeah. 47:44 Yeah, she was wearing a mini skirt with them legs out. She actually like did a little twist like with like the tennis, the tennis, how they wear their, what do you call it? In uniform? What is it? 48:01 listen I don't know I don't know what and she put a little twist with this cough yeah I don't know what Annele Annele is using for her skin or if she went to her doctor whatever she is like her skin is so glossy check she is glowing if she went Isabella Garcia yeah 48:16 Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? 48:20 Yeah, I think get married, guys. Get married. That's how you get the love. Oh, is it? Yeah, I know you guys are against it. 48:27 Against marriage? I'm so for it. I would get married today. 48:30 Here's someone that also got married. Yes. To win. 48:33 Sorry, win. 48:37 Right. 48:37 No, I'm shocked. 48:39 I haven't been online enough. I'm shocked. I didn't know. No, not now. Oh, is this the husband? 48:47 No. 48:47 No. No. 48:50 Chamiso. 48:54 I caught you. 48:55 It's fine. Listen, I can't comment beyond that because now I just know Kifi. The only time, the last time I saw Kifi, right, is when she was banning her Versace's. That was the last time. I didn't even know her. She's still in the industry like that where she still goes to events. I was so sad. 49:09 She could have given them to me. 49:10 Yeah, she's still going to events and she's still looking gorgeous. 49:13 Friend, can you send me the designers if you still have them? Yeah. I don't mind. 49:16 Yeah, please. We need them. 49:16 I'll rock the Medusa. 49:18 Thank you. 49:20 So her look was very similar to Anele's look but then she added a very chic jacket on top. It was giving very sporty but then she killed it with the heels. Gave it a bit of a classy touch. 49:31 I would have expected her to wear something like more tailored. But this was a fun look. I liked it. 49:37 Yeah, I'm surprised to see you in something like this. I would have thought you would have worn like Watando wore. Yeah. But it's still a fun look and it's according to the event that you're at. So perfect. 49:46 Yeah. Then we had, but people in London actually like pulled up. 49:52 Same event but in London. 49:54 Yes, the actual, the real one. Yes, yes. This was like Wimbledon. 49:59 Wimbledon in London. Yeah. 50:01 Yeah. 50:02 So then we had DJ Duwap. Oh, she used to play my song all the time. He goes, love her down. Yeah, very creative. Stylist, very creative. But everyone, this look is like a trend going on. Like, we're not playing tennis. We're watching the tennis. Watching the tennis. 50:20 So you think people are being a bit too literal. 50:22 Yes, it's tennis town, guys. Come on, be classy. Be there like a madam. Like, get your Nardin Akai Birkin lookalike. Be there. 50:33 If it's not that actual... Ned Frank, please invite Londi so she can show him how... How it's done. 50:38 Guys, you know, in London, they pull up with the Chanel's, the Birkins, the Jimmy Choo shoes. Like, that's where you get, like, fashion inspo. Like, oh my God, I want to be a clean girl. They wear the cardigans. Like, it's clean. So, I'm actually, like, a bit let down by our girlies. 50:57 So, Londi... 50:59 The hosting at Inanda. Isn't it also sponsored by NetBank? Polo, yes. The Polo. So it does sports now. 51:06 So NetBank is very… Like I said, this is an American Express event. Oh, NetBank. It works with American Express in SA because we don't have American Express. So NetBank is the bank that works with… 51:22 If that makes any sense. 51:25 So they were bound to host but American Express was hosting this watch in this town situation. 51:34 Oh, fire. 51:35 So it's an American Express led, supported by NetBank. It's like, I'm going to cut you out. Maybe open an account for NetBank. You get the NetBanks and you get two American Express. 51:45 Really? Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. 51:49 Like the credit card and the thingy, yeah. 51:51 Yeah. 51:52 But then we had… Oh, so I was going to say, so do you think like Lee Kuzai did it the way you feel like it should have been done? 51:58 That's where I was going. 52:00 No, but are you for real though that NetBank is the only one that carries American Express? 52:06 Okay, never mind. Moving on. 52:08 But maybe I must say it right. No, no, you're right. 52:12 You're right about the American Express thing. Like I have a NetBank account. 52:15 It's issued and operated by NetBank in South Africa. Only by NetBank. 52:20 You learn something new every day. 52:22 I mean, I'm a sponge. I mean, I love learning new things. 52:24 Yeah, I'm not asking because whatever. I'm asking to learn, to know for sure. Because I didn't know. I assumed that other banks would have it as well. Yeah. Yeah. 52:31 So we had our girl, our girl, Lee Kuzwayo. Not only was she just there, but she was like, I'm not sure what you call it in tennis, but it was pretty much as good as courtside. 52:42 Yo. 52:44 Damn, she's tough. Yo, what a beautiful girl. for women. I'm sorry. 52:47 Yeah, like you can't falter. 52:48 No, you can't. 52:49 I have no notes. And she doesn't talk. Maybe we must always just be quiet on the gram. We're doing too much. 52:55 Yeah, she's always subtle, private, you know what I mean? Clean, quiet, luxury. 53:02 Next thing, she's just in Paris doing Europe summer. 53:05 You have to leave the podcast, guys. Obsessed. We have to leave the podcast. We're not being quiet enough. 53:10 We'll never get there. We're not being quiet enough. All we can do is just wait. 53:17 And hope to trend on TikTok, please. 53:19 Can I tell you a little story? Can I tell you guys a little story about Lee? Yeah. What happened? So two years ago, the first Bridgerton event in South Africa. Yeah. So I was there and, you know, I was doing my thing, you know, sport it. Yeah. So I took a picture of him and I posted it on Twitter. Sport it. You know, she didn't like the picture. Right. 53:43 And you know what she did? She got her husband to call me to say. 53:48 Oh my goodness. Damn. She could never look bad. So I wonder why she didn't like the picture. 53:56 If you are at a... It's not a private event. You know, you are at a public event. Yeah. You know, and you are a personality who is invited there by Netflix because of who you are. You are there to be seen. But let's reverse habit. You knew the husband. No. No. 54:13 I don't even know where they got my number because I don't roll in those kind of circles. I don't even know. I just got a phone call. Was it a phone call? Yeah, WhatsApp call, whatever. I just got a thing. She was not happy about me having posted a picture on TikTok because people were not happy about how she looked. And I needed to delete that. And I refused to delete it. I think she's... You refused? Yes, I refused. No. I refused to delete it. 54:39 You said, sorry. 54:40 No, no, no. Because it's on principle. Get what I'm saying? If your personality, especially an event like that where I know that she did not pay to go to that event. She was invited by Netflix. I was there as a content creator for Netflix. I was invited by Netflix to do content, to do my sport there. I understand. 54:59 I took pictures of everybody that I felt was worth... taking a picture of... You know what I mean? 55:05 Kind of thing. But anyway, there was just a side story. Damn. 55:09 That's hectic. Shout out to the husbands that can make things happen. 55:12 But it's hectic. It's like at Durban, they were just taking videos of us just walking with our dresses. So I imagine if like your look was just not that... 55:21 Hey, ask me when I was apparently yanked on the carpet. 55:25 Trust me, I know. Or they got you at a different angle. That is not flattering. 55:29 That is not flattering. 55:30 So now you're going to be going around... That's the price you pay for being a public figure. 55:35 No, that's why even at the television, I'm like, the pictures that you see of me are pictures that I took that were just like a phototop. Whenever I'm like, nope, or some... 55:46 You know, I don't say please don't, but I'm just like, oh shit. 55:48 Yeah, but for the record though, it was not threatening. Like it was not… Just please, my wife doesn't really like this picture. Yeah, it was not that… It was just surprising. It was not threatening in any way. It was just like, hey, Cooper, you know, yeah. Okay. 56:03 You always have these wow stories that only happen to you. I've been around for weeks. 56:07 These things only happen to you. Listen, when I turn 80 or 70, knock on wood, that I get there, right? I'm writing a memoir and the stories that I have. You can't say things now. You know when you're old. We're bringing in the ace tomorrow. 56:23 In this episode, we're bringing in the ace. 56:25 Anything that happened before that? Listen. 56:27 When you're old, you can get away with saying things, guys. When you're old, you can get away with saying things. No, I'm also going to... Yeah, I can't wait. My husband's also going to make a call. Thank you for saying your mom. You see what your mom is doing on your show? My mom is unhinged. You see what your mom is doing on your show? 56:44 You don't care anymore when you get older, but I will be calling... My husband will be calling you about that goddamn book. So... 56:51 No, I will be calling you me. I'll be servant, I wouldn't care. 56:56 Me, myself, with my husband. Like, tell him, baby, tell him. Yeah, in the back, he said, babe, tell him, yes. 57:01 Wait, I feel it servant. Memoir. 57:04 A cold what? 57:06 Behind the curtain. 57:10 I've been around I've seen things What I want to do before 70 though Is be at Paris Couture Week Yes That's what I want to do Not write a book Before 70 Damn So that's what happened This week I think though There is a difference Between Paris Fashion Week And Paris Couture Week Yeah Because Paris Couture Week Mainly focuses on wearable art Yeah Hence why we saw some outrageous looks, especially from Cardi B with the shoes. 57:40 Oh, those crazy high shoes. She was eating it up. 57:43 I was obsessed with all her looks. Like she ate, even though she was with, you know, the… That soccer player. Yeah. That everybody wants so badly. That guy looks like he will ruin your life. 57:53 Yeah. 57:54 You're not interested? I didn't see. I don't know who you're talking about. The very hot Nigerian. The one that we talked about with the hairstyle that was starting here. Is it the same person? 58:04 Yeah, Angico. 58:05 Is it the same person? There was an episode where we talked. 58:08 He's like the hottest guy in the world right now. 58:11 He does not play for Nigeria. He's a Nigerian football goalkeeper, right? But he does not play for Nigeria. 58:17 He does. Nigeria was just not in the World Cup. 58:19 Okay, then he can't be the same one. Is it the same guy? 58:22 It's the same guy. The very hot one. Yes. I don't know what you're talking about. The hairline. He's perfect. 58:28 There was something about his hairstyle. 58:30 That guy's perfect. Never mind. 58:32 There was something about his hairstyle. 58:33 But then he did one interview. He went from a 10 to a 0. 58:38 He said something like, what makes someone attractive? And he said, good looks. 58:41 And then he said, that's all? And then he said, yeah, good looks. I'm like, uh... Please, that's for him. 58:47 Get him off my screen right now. 58:49 Get him off my algorithm right now. 58:50 Get him off my screen right now. 58:52 But Cardi B. I was so pissed. But what was Cardi B? Cardi B was dating the Stefan, Stefan, Stefan Dix. Stefan Dix. He's also embroiled in some messy things with gay boys and whatever. 59:03 I love Cardi B. I love Cardi B so much. 59:06 But she really is, you can tell she's really one of those girls that like loves a naughty boy. And it's like, Chief, I want you to stop being heartbroken. So leave these kind of gents alone. And she might be pregnant in two weeks. Yeah, very fertile. 59:19 From flirting with that guy. 59:20 Very fertile. Just from flirting with him. I love her. I just want her with a decent guy. I mean, she looks hot. She's glowing. These niggas look like trouble. She has money for days. 59:32 That gendered guy can't have more money than Cardi B. 59:34 There's no ways. There's no ways. There's no ways. No, I think people were talking figures on the ground. They're going to come for us. 59:40 No, but also, if he knows what Cardi B just wants to be with him because of his looks, why can't he just say the same thing? He said good looks. He's only attracted to good looks. He said it. 59:50 She must stop claiming and falling pregnant. I don't mind her having her fun. Like I said, I'm a Cardi B stan, but... She clearly likes niggers where you can see from a mile away that Stefan Diggs is trouble. I don't think anyone had to tell her that. I don't think she had to experience it. Like, you could just see. 60:06 Maybe she thought she could change him. 60:09 It happens. She's Bob. The boulder. 60:13 She did it with offset. Did he change? She thought she could do it again. No. It's okay. 60:18 You know, I can never understand these. But then again, it's not fair. I can never understand these females who are 10s. 60:24 You know, 10s, not just by looks. I'm just in 10s in whatever capacity. Whether it's money, 10 because of whatever. Or 10 because you look good. 60:32 Yo, he fixed it so quickly. 60:34 Why? Who will be with these boys that are 3s and 4s? 60:39 I think also… What makes them 3s and 4s then? Behaviour. Because… They are a distraction. Whether it's brand destruction, whether it's financial destruction. Womb destruction. They're just a distraction in some way. Obufebe destruction. You know what I mean? Something that you support. They're not coming into these women's lives to enhance it. And everybody can see it from day one. Yeah. They're not coming into these women's lives to enhance it. 61:02 I mean, all of a sudden you have a whole furniture line. Ugh. Really? 61:05 No, but also, I mean, look at Rihanna. She's way richer and way more successful than A$AP Rocky, but he was still on tour and he saw some girl in the crowd and then he goes, you're lucky I'm not single because if I was, I would if the ish out of you right now. 61:20 He said that? On stage. This is Rihanna's man. 61:25 Rihanna, who's way out of his league. Huh? 61:28 What's wrong with that? 61:29 At a concert, you're going to tell some girl in the crowd you find her so attractive that you're lucky I'm not single because then I would F the ish out of you. 61:36 Which means he actually wanted to F her. You find her attractive. He's just not single. 61:42 That's what it means. Hey, Rumi's going to come for me again. Rumi's going to come for me again. 61:49 Literally, thank you. Thank you. That is so rude! 62:07 That's why I'm like sometimes actually it's either you are beyond in the mind or I must be very childish because I would, that's not okay. Your partner looking at someone else and acknowledging they find, they're attractive. 62:21 No, but you see, context is important. 62:24 You can say someone looks good, but two. Wait, wait, wait. On stage. 62:30 Mamilan, context is important, right? If a man is an artist on stage where it's all about bravado, it's all about exaggeration, it's all about whatever, right? It's not the same as you being at dinner with Lesijo and some girl passes and Lesijo says that. Those are two different scenarios. No, we get it. 62:49 But like, what was the need? What was the bravado? 62:52 He is an artist with girls throwing panties at him. He's lucky to be with Rihanna. But he could have said it in a different way. He's playing to the moment. You don't say you are lucky. I am married. That's like a threat. Maybe the problem is me. It is you. 63:10 We support Buffet. That is crazy. 63:20 Phil, you're wiling. I won't lie, you're wiling. 63:23 And even if you... No, but context, guys. Context. When things are happening, matters. 63:28 You know where I stand on this. 63:31 Because he had no reason. He could have said anything else. Such beautiful ladies in the audience tonight. Even. Fine. Maybe. That's it. But I would smash you. You look good tonight. That's it. And my ladies backstage with our kids with headsets on. You're going. And she's Rihanna. So you also don't over think about yourself because this is Rihanna. 63:53 Jay-Z would never do that to Beyonce. Net worth, beauty. She's out of his league. It's giving struggling answers. Jay-Z would never have to flirt. Jay-Z would never have to flirt with a hand that's in the crowd. He doesn't give a damn. He has the hottest woman in the world. 64:09 I think he feels emasculated and that's how he tried to also make her feel small. Think about it. You know what I mean? No, listen. I... 64:19 I get it but I don't get it. Listen, I still live in that world where, you know, artistry and personal are two different worlds. Right? And context matters. There are certain instances or certain utterances that when they happen in a certain context, They are jarring and cringy, right? But when they happen in another context, you know, of performance art or whatever, it's like the conversation that we'd have with actors. You know, when this was happening, what was happening? 64:52 Were you guys in character or were you just being, you know, a peff? Kind of thing. You know, I look at it in that kind of way. So for me, a singer on stage… Atturing words like that, for me, is performance art. He is just ingratiating himself to his audience. 65:08 That's why I said, I hear you, but I don't hear you. No, Phil. That's why we spoke about this two weeks ago. Where I said that, like, yo, when you're in a relationship, you still have to move. You have to move differently. So even if you are this provocative person or whatever. They have kids. Like... Like, we're here to entertain part of what a podcast is supposed to do, right? Yeah. I wouldn't get on this podcast and be like, oh, I would another man knowing I'm in a relationship. Do you know what I mean? 65:33 No, but sometimes I say men look good on the show. No, but the thing is, That's fine if your partner's fine with that. 65:38 But I... I'm not fine with that. 65:43 Help us with this one. Help us with this one, Rumi. 65:46 I learned to continue. But Rumi, please let us know where you stand on this. Let's go. Let's move. We still have Popeyeism. Come on, come on, come on. Let's go. Yeah, we are nice. 65:55 Okay, sharp. So we had Lupita Nyong'o, she was wearing Chanel. At the Paris Couture week, just so that we, you know, go back to what we were talking about. Paris Couture week, Lupita Nyong'o wore Chanel. 66:08 My God, I have no words. 66:12 No, it's positive. No, it's... Like, is it gorgeous? 66:15 Like, no. I don't like it. 66:18 No, I don't like it at all. No. I don't know if she's always been a fashion girl. And she has a great body. 66:23 It's not flattering. 66:24 Yeah, I don't like it. I'm not sure about it. 66:27 Was there a theme for Paris Couture Week? It's like... 66:30 It's couture. There's no theme. 66:32 Artist fashion type of. 66:33 Okay, so it had to be not your typical pretty. 66:36 Wearable art type of art. Okay, but we did have a stunning look. I'm not sure who this lady is, but she's Emma Corrin. Do you guys know her? 66:44 Mm-mm. 66:45 She was wearing... 66:46 Does she know that influencer? 66:47 She was wearing a Schiaparelli look. Wow. Oh, I like the jacket. Wow. 66:51 I don't know about the bottom half. 66:53 I mean, she still had to walk the streets of Paris. So it wasn't like she was on the runway. But it was giving runway plus street couture. So I feel like she did like a nice, you know, blend of both. I really liked this look. It had shock value. It had all of it. 67:08 She was like lighter pants, maybe. I just don't like... 67:11 Like a white. But she was wearing black shoes. 67:13 Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Bottom half, I... 67:17 It's like it's two different outfits. 67:18 Yes. Like, where are we going? What's happening? Did your pants tear right before... Or what? But no. 67:24 I mean, the borrowed jacket gave what it was supposed to give. 67:27 Yeah. 67:29 I feel like that was just the star of the outfit. Maybe she just didn't want to do too much at the bottom. But if it was Cardi, she would have done like maybe a white legging. 67:38 Yeah, something light at the bottom. 67:40 A platform, a white platform with it. But anyway... She's forgiven. I liked it. And then we had Bad Bunny who's always wearing Zara. Is he wearing Zara? Zara? 67:49 What do you mean? He's like the ambassador of Zara. He's like the ambassador of Zara. 67:55 Wasn't he dressed by Bando at some point? It was an event. I thought it was an event where he was photographed. He wore Zara at the thing. So this is Zara. 68:05 What is he wearing? 68:08 My phone is doing. 68:10 Oh, Shaparelli again. Shaparelli did the rounds because they had like a proper fashion show. 68:15 So they had the tender. 68:16 Basically. He looked lovely. Sexy banana. Love a yellow moment. Sexy banana. 68:22 But he's crazy. But he is a fashion boy. So whether it's Zara or not, which it's not like, I think he would have pulled it off. 68:28 He changes his whole look. I love it when artists do like a whole rebranding. 68:32 Yeah, when I saw how he used to look before, I'm like, huh? This cannot be the same dude. You know? Well, are you guys ready to get into Popeye's Zoom? 68:41 Before we go there, we need to congratulate our winner. Yay! 68:46 Isabella Garcia and then they came with the every dance yes we love every dance before and after of the glow up competition yes but this is only just two weeks of progress now so it can only get better because they're already looking so good yeah you know or what 69:03 Yeah, stick to the regimen when you get it. And also, skins are different. Skin textures are different. So what took somebody two days might take you longer than that. So that's why that test that they asked that you do was very important. 69:20 But I hope that people were very truthful in their analysis. Because that's very... So can I go with the first winner? Yes 69:41 And their glow up journey. It's Tebukho Pokile who says… Tebukho says his skin looks brighter and healthier. His blemishes have reduced significantly. And his skin's elasticity has improved. It's not as dry and dull anymore. Skin elasticity is so important. Like I can feel when my face is not like… you know, clumpy, healthy, stretchy, if I could call it that. I don't know how else to describe the feeling, but shout out. 70:07 Before Isabella, I used to love like a snail gel. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, and aloe gels. It really helps. 70:14 Yeah, so Isabella Garcia has a problem, I mean, a thingy, a product in it called happy skin. Yes. 70:20 You know, so that's, yes, that's also got those good products in it. 70:25 And then we have Anthea Nguenia. Anthea says her hyperpigmentation is clearing up and she feels confident enough to go out without makeup now. That's always the goal. You know, makeup is nice. And Isabella does have great makeup products, by the way. I love their mascara. Makeup is nice, but you also want to just confidently step out of the house without it. And then Yoliso Nkeli says, says her complexion has popped out and her pigmentation has decreased. She says, I feel more confident about my face and my appearance. 70:55 It also motivated me to take care of myself overall and not to let myself go. And how fun it is to do yourself care. when you have the proper products. It is fun. That's why I even could do this stuff at night when I never used to have a nighttime routine. So I love that everybody's taking care of themselves. 71:13 And I actually love the way everybody's skin has been looking. 71:18 And this is only after two weeks of progress. So like Phil said, just be strict about it. You know what I mean? Because if this is after two weeks, imagine the long-term glow up, you know? And it's so affordable because you also like... 71:33 They want to see the results first. So you're not paying for something where you're just spending a bunch of money and then not getting the results. They are that confident in their products that you know you're going to get the results even though you get to pay like a monthly subscription. 71:46 And the nice thing about skincare that it does last, hey? You shouldn't just over apply. Just two pumps, guys. 71:54 Yeah. 71:54 Two pumps. Can last you for like three months. 71:56 Yeah. I mean, look at how big this face wash is. It's huge. I still have my first one that I started with. So at last, you're getting bang for your buck because most times with skincare products, it's very small, holiday, toiletry bag. 72:10 With Isabella, they are very like… 72:12 This is Rias. Well, shout out to everybody. Don't let people stress you out. Shout out to everyone who entered and won. They are not Popeyes. 72:19 They're not Popeyes. That's what I was going to say. 72:21 You know when someone's stressing you out, you could also be some other kind of Popeye. But we do have victims as usual. I'm really sad for you guys, but... I need these stories, you know, we need to judge you. So first victim is Popeye number one for today. I'm a Popeye for hope. I'm a Rumi from Pretoria. I grew up in the Free States and moved to Pretoria to study. Unfortunately, I'm stuck in my final year because of financial difficulties. 72:52 When that happened, I decided to start working so I could save money to finish my studies. But as you know, it's incredibly difficult to find a decent paying job without qualifications in South R. I've now been unemployed for almost two years. During that time, I started a home-based salon studio, hoping it would become a source of income. Nice. Nice. 73:31 No. No. 73:56 And how do you find your purpose again when you feel like you're falling behind everyone else? Sure. Should I start? Sure. Yes. 74:06 The first step to... 74:10 positivity in your life and the prospect of you being successful is that you believe in yourself before you're waiting for somebody else to come and believe in you. 74:18 So, put yourself in the back and say that you are one of those people that are very proactive, that are very... I'm not going to wait for somebody to come and save me. You know, you are one of the few within the generation that is, you know... 74:33 now where a lot of them have felt so entitled to opportunities without having to put in the work for it. You understand? You saw where you are with your circumstances and you made a decision and actually stuck to it and actually did something. You know, there are people who are just dreamers. But you are not just a dreamer. You know what I mean, Rumi? You're not just a dreamer. You actually did something about that. Be proud of that. Yeah. You know, and because of that, I know that you've got the smarts to hear this. 75:06 For some of us, it takes a bit longer to get to that finish line or to get there. Yes, your friends might get there quicker, but that does not mean that they're going to stay there longer. 75:14 Understand? 75:16 So, your blessings are coming. Just keep planting that seed. And I know when you've got problems, when bills are here, when you want that money now, and you want to pay bills, when somebody says to you, keep a rent, it's going to happen. You're not feeling that because you're like, bruh, I need to pay this rent. I need to pay these bills. And when are you still telling me to stick it up? You know what I mean? But believe in me, You are more positioned to get blessings if you've been planting than if you're just sitting dreaming that somebody's going to come and offer you that. 75:51 Because what's the thing where they say, preparation meets opportunity. 75:57 If you're not prepared for it… Those opportunities when they come, you're not going to see them. 76:01 You won't see them. 76:01 You're not going to utilize them. 76:03 Yeah. 76:04 But when are you sitting in such a beautiful position? I'm so proud of you. How old is Aesurumi? 76:08 I don't know. But the varsity student. 76:10 Varsity. So you're probably in your early 20s. Yes. For you to have that way worth all. You have that thing. I have to do something. Prepare myself. Build something. Build a business. Yeah. 76:21 But wait, she's struggling with money to complete her studies. 76:26 Yeah, so that's why she's trying to make money via the salon, but it's not also making money. All I can say is, first of all, kudos to you for trying. Number two, to echo what Phil's saying, when I was starting to work in this industry, And I was telling my mom that she, I don't think varsity is for me. And she was like, and I was like, yeah, like I'm making more money than all like my peers. So I'm like, you know, I'm fine. And my mom's like, yes, you might be making more money now. But someone who has a qualification, at some point, this industry has a ceiling or can have a ceiling. 76:59 Whereas this person that continued with these studies, they're always going to be in positions to be promoted. You know what I mean? Like you could go... So yes, you might feel confident now, but then later on, this person has passed you. Like you said, I started there early, but I could be exceeded later on. So don't look around at your peers and the process or the progress that they've made because you might exceed them later. But it's not about other people, is my point. Don't let it make you feel like... Run your own race. 77:30 Yeah, because from what I'm hearing, Rumi already sounds like a very strong... 77:35 Willed person. Willed person. She has a strong character. So I feel like she will make it. Like without a doubt. So, you know, sometimes in life, the starting line seems as if it's going, you know, very slow. But at some point when it picks up, my God, you will be amazed at what God is going to do for you. 77:54 You'll forget that you were even at this point. 77:55 And also don't neglect the power of manifestation. Yeah. Always manifest and see where you want to be. And trust me, it will happen. Because you've already seen where you're supposed to be. Now it's just in you to put in the work. It might take 10, 20 years, but you'll get there. So Rumi, I'm like, yo. 78:15 And before you say that, Malab, before you say the next one, very quickly, we've built a community here as Rumi's, right? It's unfortunate that you didn't put your name there. You've got a salon. Wherever you are, please let us know where that salon is. Where is the salon? So that we can let our other room be. Get advice from this lady. You understand? 78:29 Or you can come work at my salon if you're not far from Princeton. For sure. I mean, that's a great start. Yes, I'll pay her. 78:35 Yeah, it's not charity. 78:36 Why are you laughing? 78:38 I'm being for real. She can come and work. I love it when people work for things. It's like… Sometimes you have to work for things. 78:49 But if you're not in, you know, close proximity, wherever you are, there's probably another roomie who's watching us right now. In your area. That's what we want to build with this show. We are a family. 78:59 We help each other out. 79:01 So let us know where your salon is. Let us know what the name of your salon is. And we'll let other roomies. Actually, on the comment section of this episode, please comment. Comment on this thing and you'll see. We are everywhere. 79:14 A family in this network and we try and help each other. And you see, if there are people that are able to come to your salon, and especially since you are trying to build something, you are trying to pay for your fees and you're still young, whatever. We want you to see you succeed. 79:28 And guys, the amount of emails I get of students asking for financial assistance, it literally breaks my heart. 79:36 I'm actually trying to work on something. I hope it works out for me so that I can be able to be at a level to assist, you know, other females. It's really heartbreaking. Like every day, I see over like 10 emails of just females and students asking for assistance. 79:53 Yeah. 79:54 And it's not like people that are just laying around and sitting and expecting you to send them an e-wallet or something. It's like serious. It must be dire to ask a stranger for help, you know, to even email a stranger. 80:06 So let's lean in and use this community, Rumi. 80:08 Yeah. 80:09 Victim number two says, Hi, roomies. Londi, Miss Mama. I loved your Durban July outfit. You ate that. Anyways, buckle up, y'all. So I met my boyfriend through Instagram. He started dating. Why not? You know Instagram is the new Tinder. 80:25 I met my boyfriend through Instagram. We started dating and all was good. Fast forward, we attended an event somewhere in Joburg and later we went back to his place to sleep. His friend and his partner came with us too. Cool. We're all gay by the way. A week later, his friend DMs me and starts telling me that he likes me and calls me out of nowhere, sends me news I never asked for. Obviously, I didn't like that since I'm in a relationship with his friend. 80:56 I then told my boyfriend what his friend has been doing with receipts, screenshots, mind you. Long story short, guess what? They both blocked and ghosted me. So am I a Popeye or I dodged a bullet? Yes, the bullet. 81:10 You dodged it. The bullet. Yes. It's giving me tricks. 81:13 You're being transparent with your partner about his friend's activities in your DMs and they... something's... Who blocked him? The couple? No. His boyfriend and the friend. 81:26 He probably went and told your boyfriend before you told the boyfriend. 81:33 He probably said, oh, by the way, your man was 30. Yeah. Yeah. He got ahead of it before he probably said that you were the one initiating things. 81:40 You were the one sending the nudes now. 81:41 No, but he says he showed receipts and screenshots. So why... Maybe the partner was like, no. 81:45 It was too late. He believed the friend. 81:47 He believed the friend. Like, why would someone just send you this unsolicited? Because how did the friend get you a number? How about they do the... 81:52 How did the friend get his number though? 81:54 They do though. 81:54 Exactly. They do though. No, no. Like honestly, if you are in a mutual friend sector in 2020, right? It's easy for somebody to get you a number. You know what I mean? And if the boyfriend is that reckless, maybe the boyfriend is the one who shared the number to begin with. 82:08 Yeah. And then Majo, I am blocker. You get what I'm saying? 82:12 It sounds very doji. It's like they always do this. 82:17 No, but that's why sometimes you don't tell your... Like it's so hard sometimes to tell a man that, hey man, that friend of yours has been flirting with me or whatever because some people turn around and they're like, what did you do to invite... That energy. All I had to do was look good. What the hell? You just, you, you know what I mean? But some people are like that, where they're like, no, but my boy would never do that. you must be entertaining him as well. That sounds so 90s. 82:43 No, throw all of them. 82:44 I'm telling you, people need to be doing that. 82:47 Yeah, so what's the conclusion to Rumi Pella? Yeah, I'll dodge the bullets. You dodge the bullets. Sometimes rejection is a blessing, eh? 82:54 Yeah, rejection is protection. 82:56 Or maybe your boyfriend and his friend actually like each other. You know? Like maybe they decided to run off into the sunset. The boyfriend and the friend. Maybe that's why you go to them. They're like, I want you. You want me? Fuck that guy. Excuse me. You know what I mean? 83:12 Yo, but a block is a bit harsh. 83:13 But you know what? 83:14 Have you ever been blocked, guys? 83:16 By someone that I'm dating. Or just randomly. 83:20 By someone you were dating. 83:22 I know. That I would love. 83:24 I always get blocked. Why? I'm kidding. 83:26 No, maybe it's a feminine female thing. I don't know. You know what? I'm sick and tired of this chat. 83:30 No, I do think I can get someone to block it. No, guys, what? 83:45 But I've been later like unblocked as in maybe you're blocking me while we're fighting as a couple. No, not so unblocked. I've already blocked you back. 83:54 I'll never see that you've unblocked me. 83:55 No, I want to see what you're going to say to my messages. 83:58 Why are you blocking me? I've never been blocked by somebody that I'm dating. I've never been blocked by a friend. Don't block me because I'll call your friends. If the blocking happened, you are no longer friends anymore already. I stay blocked. 84:08 I'm trying to think if I've been blocked by a friend. I'm still blocked. I've been unfollowed by old friends. Still blocked. You stay blocked. Because I know you probably type in some crazy shit. My friend blocked me. 84:18 Oh, damn. Block me. I block Xs. 84:21 I block Xs. No, but also, I think that's an Instagram thing. 84:25 I think blocking on Instagram means so much more than anywhere else. 84:31 I don't want you to see my life anymore. I don't care about your life that much. That is so deep. What are you even posting? 84:38 I think blocking and unfollowing on Instagram means so much more than anywhere else. 84:44 Listen, my friend made everyone around him unfollow me and blog me. I'm just like... 84:52 and ingezong end up because i was just like i didn't even know they were gone if i want to see your shit i can start a hundred accounts i don't get the point of blocking someone on instagram no i'm saying if i really wanted to or i could be like londi give me your phone quickly can i just search this person no i'm not doing that no i'm not doing that but i'm saying that why do you think what's on your page you acting like you've got the like cereals password on your page or the secret service one negative comment on my page you ask your friend for their phone to check my page that's the hard work you have to go through for coming to my page and saying negative things no strangers unfortunately positivity all the way otherwise block it no an old friend or an ex i don't understand yeah 85:35 Listen, I do block people on Twitter as well, right? Why does this person think they show relevance? Oh, Mina, I block you so quickly. I do block people on Twitter where I'm most active, right? But for me, I realize that... No, honestly, I realize... The block on Twitter is... By the time you block somebody, they need to have done something so egregious. Yeah. I understand. They need to have done... They need to have randomly out of nowhere just... Sworn at you. Yeah. But also, there are certain people on Twitter that... I know they're hating me, but I want them to see my win. 86:06 Yes, see me close. 86:08 I will never block Musa Kaula. 86:11 I will never in my life. No, but I block those scammer accounts. 86:17 The ones with no profile picture, those ones. You must get another account and come back. 86:23 I do block produce. You get what I'm saying? So there are certain people that I need them to see my bliss. I need you to see Horek. They will see it anyway. All your efforts to make me, to dim my light. All your efforts, I want you to see it. 86:54 Exactly. 86:55 You can't avoid me, actually. You're going to see me somewhere. Next victim. I'm sorry, guys, but come on. You killed it. 87:02 Hi, roomies. 87:17 I just need to get this off my chest. Years ago, I got really close with a work friend. She started dating a guy from our company while we were... Oh, no. She started dating a guy from our company. While they were together, I kept quiet, even though he was rude to me. He'd walk into our chats and not even greet me. When they broke up, I was sad for her, but I was also honest. I told her I'd never liked how he treated me, and I thought it was the right time to say it. Then they get back together and she didn't tell me. The part that hurt me the most is she moved towns, but when she came to my town to see him, she wouldn't tell me. 87:54 I'd only find out from other people. We eventually spoke and she said she felt that she had to choose between us because I didn't like him. We couldn't fix it. The friendship is over. It makes me wonder, why was it so easy to forgive men for anything? But with girlfriends, we cut each other off so quickly over things we could talk through. I'm not angry. I'm just sad we couldn't figure it out. 88:23 But one thing about us girls, we always choose our men over our friends. 88:28 It's so sad though. 88:30 It is. 88:31 But I mean, I sleep with him in bed. 88:33 I'm like, guys, you don't hold, like, not that your friends can't do this for you, but it's like, guys, you don't touch me where I pee. You don't hold me when I'm crying at night. That guy said it today. 88:43 Do you know what I mean? 88:45 Like, so... Oh, Disney. Touch me where I pee. 88:49 One of the photographers, the young boy, well, he looks young. 88:54 He said, he doesn't like sex. 88:57 He doesn't like sex. He said sex is overrated. Overrated, yes. His girlfriend only calls him because she just want to touch him where he's pink. Damn. 89:05 No, no, no, no, no. But you need to contextualize this. Yeah. Yeah. 89:12 He's very short. It's like so adorable but also very handsome. Okay. 89:17 No, nothing was adorable. To you. 89:20 Even though. 89:22 So for me, I just feel like it is a bad habit that we have as women because men don't choose us over their friends. They're not a balance. 89:29 Oh, my man chooses me, doll. 89:30 No, but I'm saying like, for example, the topic that was on X the other week where this girl... her friend bailed on her. Yeah, the majority. Yeah, bailed on her. And then everyone is like, yo, it's crazy because your friend will bail on you for her man. But when it's time to have plans with the boys, your man will say, babe, I have plans with the boys. And he's sticking to them. He's not going to bail on them. That's why I never cancel my girls. You know what I mean? So there has to be some sort of balance. There has to be a balance in your life. 89:57 Like you can't always be with your man, your man, your man. All these different relationships in your life are there for a reason. Friendship, 90:05 Family, work, everything. 90:08 All of that. All these ships always have to balance so that your life, you know, flows in a proper way. So you can't just neglect your friends and be with your man. Because now when he hurts you, who are you going to talk to? 90:20 Your friends. And now they're gone. 90:22 They're gone. 90:23 Yeah. And I think the other thing also is like anyone that's not, men are very good at isolating women as well. Yo, isolating friends. Yes. The minute you go home and you say, hey, DJ Lasekho, Londi was saying this and this about you. He's going to find a way to, I mean, not him, but I'm saying a man will find a way. So then be like, no, man, don't hang out with Londi so much. I don't think she's a... And then they isolate you when you criticize them. 90:47 That's why I never speak ill of my friends. My friends are always perfect. Can I ask a question? My friends are always perfect. 90:52 I don't get involved in people's relationships. I don't touch you guys where you pee. You're touching each other. Now I get involved. I advise you. Then you guys fix the issue. And then who's the enemy? Me. 91:01 No, but also she was doing too much in that Popazam story. Like she wants them to explain everything to her. Why? He was being mean to me. 91:11 At what level... 91:13 Does somebody in your friendship have the audacity to want to be questioning your man? Like, he was being mean to me. Okay, stop. He's in a relationship with me. Imagine me going to your man now all of a sudden taking... 91:26 I'm not your friend's man. In a relationship with me, he doesn't have to be nice to you. 91:30 Just distance yourself from them. But I like it when my man is nice to my friends. 91:34 No, that's being nice. No, that's fine. At what point do I now have to discuss you with your man? 91:40 Yeah, but she's also doing too much. 91:41 No, but honestly, let's just be real. Let's just be honest here. You understand? There are certain lines and boundaries. That's why sometimes... Certain friends don't understand... And which I don't condone. I don't condone friends who when they've got a man... They start treating their friends differently. Yes. Mara, sometimes you've got friends who are chacharach. 92:00 Who don't know the line. 92:02 You understand? Don't get involved too much. 92:04 In no way that... You know this thing happened like a couple of years ago... Where a friend asked the person that I was dating... To help him with money. Outside of me being involved in that. Right? Really? 92:16 And... 92:18 How do you have... Audacity... 92:23 Why? 92:24 Yeah. 92:24 Why would you even... Yes. Do you understand? Yes, I know he was in a bind. Yes, you get what I'm saying? Where do you get the lever? Don't talk to my person without talking to me. 92:35 Yes. 92:36 I have so many questions. Talk to me to say, yo, can this person help me with this job that I want to do or whatever? Like my partners help my friends with certain things, like not like money or whatever, but just certain things. where they come to me first and they're like, yo, by the way, do you mind if he helps me learn how to DJ? You know what I mean? Or whatever the case may be. 92:57 There's so many other DJs. 93:00 But I've got the plug, isn't it? I'm touching him where he pees. So I could be like, ah, bad. You know what I mean? But at least ask me first. 93:07 No, but that conversation has to start with you first. That's the point that I'm trying to make, even with giving you that personal example. Is that the Yajore? 93:14 How did he skip you and Jam? That's the thing. 93:16 No, but also, you need to understand, there's certain money asks that people, for some weird reason, maybe it's a Jobeck thing, people don't think that it's a big deal, you know? Like these people were in Melville, right? I was not there with them. But every time that we'd be in Melville, be together with my person, stuff like that, right? Something happened with bills and whatever. There was some issue with that situation, right? So they asked this, you know, my person, but they don't know him outside of me. 93:42 No, and your friend embarrassed you, but that's embarrassing that now your partner has to be like, eh, chief, do you know that Samisa asked me for money tonight? 93:50 That's embarrassing. No, but you know some men are weak. He could have went there, paid the bill, got with your friend. You know, because men do that. Mm-hmm. 93:59 Yeah. I'm hoping that it didn't happen that way. 94:03 So the bull and the butchaks are for sale. Yo, hallelujah. 94:06 Moving on. 94:07 Next. I just think boundaries. If you don't like your friends, man, rather just be like, I'm not going to be around them. Done. No, I can see some people. All right. So Rumi, I'm going to have to say thank you so much for your stories. I really like that we also had stories, a story that wasn't just about romantic relationships. Durax! Durax! Durax! 94:30 And buffet. Bye, Elizabeth. 94:31 You know, they still... Guys, you guys are having it. Please strap up. We don't want babies and STDs. So please just strap up. But shout out to you guys. Keep using the WhatsApp line. You've been asking. We've delivered. Let us also see you. So send us videos if you're comfortable. Send us voice notes. But let us know how you've been made a Popeye this week. We're not Popeyes because... We're getting paid. 94:55 So we have a shout out. Well, I have a shout out. 94:59 And so shout out to Hollywood Bits because you need to remember that you can get 25 rand. 95:05 You can get a 25 rand sign up bonus and 50 free spins when you register an account on Hollywood Bits. That's for 18 plus. And make sure you always bet responsibly. Very big on being responsible via everything, you know. 95:21 Are we reading the room today? Who has to read the room? 95:24 Talking about reading the room. I think for me, Sunday Times. News 24. Sorry, Sunday Times. News 24. Y'all need to read the room because y'all overplayed your cards. Because you gave us an impression that you've got some exclusive. It's never seen before. Subscribe now. They know about that, like, to subscribe. Kandi, the whole video is something that has been reported on. It's something that we know. Well, outside of the thing in the phone call, right? What am I talking about? I'm talking about the AKA and Anelet Dembe situation. 95:57 You know, at the hotel where she, you know, self-exited. And yeah, tragic years. You know, subsequent to that, we all know that, you know, AKA ended up, you know, being murdered in Durban, you know. But that's my thing. The way that you went about it. You know, I respect journalism, right? And I do believe that this is something that is of public interest. So I'll give them that. 96:23 For me, the jarring thing is you oversold this. 96:28 Oh, and they made sure it's before. What is it? It's not a trial. 96:31 Yeah, the inquest. 96:33 They made sure it's before that. 96:34 Yeah, you oversold this and what you delivered was just a bunch of nothing. 96:39 Yeah, it was literally nothing. Yes, there was the AI element also of the inside of the room. It's like, okay, you don't have footage from it. 96:47 I saw that. 96:47 Didn't that remind you of Pretoria's case? Oh. Oh yeah. 96:52 No, they did their thing. 96:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 96:55 They got the subscribers. 96:57 First of all, the fact that there's a trailer about something so sensitive that you want to basically clickbait everybody on things that aren't… This is not entertaining news to me, you know. I feel like it's very sensitive… So many people lost someone that they love. And the first person I had to think about was his daughter, you know, where I was like, but I don't understand. So you've spoken to someone who gave you a bit more context about why there's an inquest. 97:24 So we spoke to a lawyer because one of the biggest questions that we had when we said that we're going to talk about this story, right? We did not understand. Okay, fine. Okay, there were two people in that room. 97:34 Right? 97:35 Anele and O.A.K.A. They are both not here with us anymore. Right? So what is the point of having this whole thing? This whole inquest whatever. Because if you redo… The inquest is done and it comes out… Anele… was not, you know, there was no nefarious or foul play. That's the term, yes. There was no foul play, whatever. Okay. If it comes back, okay, maybe AKA did something. He's not here to be held accountable for it or whatever. 98:06 So the question was, what's the point, right? And he was able to let us know that, no, the inquest is to make sure that, you know, all the details of what happened are now known to all the parties that are interested, meaning that the family and all of that, right? I did also ask Ugutzi, like, okay, fine, I get that. I get that families need closure, they need answers and all of that, right? But I mean, the obvious question is who's paying for it? You know? And while he couldn't give me a definite answer, he said that normally inquests are paid for by the state. 98:39 You know what I mean? And I would understand it would make sense that the Dembe family would not be paying because that would seem like they would be influencing. 98:48 You know? 98:50 The inquest and then, you know, the Forbes family obviously would not be paying as well because it would seem like they're trying to influence. So it has to be a state that wants to close the case. And I think he just didn't want to be put on record. 99:02 Yeah. 99:03 So the logical answer is the state is paying for the inquest. You know what I mean? But yeah, but I do get it, right? Yes, some family needs closure. 99:12 Yeah. And vindication of their children. You know what I mean? I think that's maybe what I'm getting from it is that whoever's family believes what they believe, you want your child to be vindicated and really rest in peace in terms of what you want to remember. 99:27 But is this something that's always done? If it wasn't… No, we've had inquests before. Is it only done for like public figures or is it something that… 99:37 mainly for that you know but we've had inquests that had nothing to do with celebrity whatever we've had inquests about like you know a big story like you know like I'll give you an example I can't remember one top of my head but like for instance something that happened with Nyombeni Nyombeni you know that Tavern thing where 21 people died you would have an inquest for something like that you know what happened at Elise Park with that soccer thing where 40 something people died yeah you know, you'd have an inquest for that. Okay. So if there's public interest in a case at that level, then you would have, you know, what I didn't know, but which now makes us, you know, is the fact that the state has to pay for it. 100:12 You know, if it's a private, you know, individual kind of thing. Because if it's an incident like, you know, what happened at the stadium at Ellis Park or an incident that was happening with those kids, it makes sense because that is a national thing. You know what I mean? It's not a single family thing. or single individual thing. You know, that makes sense, right? 100:31 Yeah, but I'd also want to know if they're also doing that for the AKA murder case or is it just for… But you see, I just wish that we had somebody with legal expertise. 100:42 Because when I was listening to radio, it was almost as if they're doing both. Yeah, they are doing both because the AKA case is still very much open. And it's separate from the interest. You get what I'm saying? But now that begs the question… What information that is shared in the inquest will actually be used by the private investigation of the murder? And also, we need to also be concerned when we talk about the AKA murder guys, AKA was not the only person that was murdered that day. 101:11 Yeah. 101:13 Collateral. 101:14 You understand? So the AKA case is not the AKA just alone case. It's lives that were lost outside of just one celebrity. So I don't think that… the state would just want to not pursue that and just let the inquest whatever. But now I also want to have in my head asking that question. But now if you have an active case on and then you have the inquest at the same time, information, like who's going to be held accountable? If somebody goes to the inquest and say, is it a Matanga Commission kind of thing where somebody's going to say... 101:48 Something there. Next thing you know, we know that they're getting arrested or they're getting sick. They're in some ward. Yeah, but anyway, look. 101:54 Hopefully, this is going to 102:04 Saying it like it's going to close wounds makes it seem… Give the families closure. But you know, you can never close those wounds. Whatever the outcome is, it's always going to be an issue. 102:15 But News24 needs to read the room. Yeah, yeah. 102:18 No, honestly, y'all did too much. 102:19 Y'all did way too much. But do they normally do trailers like that for every big story? Look, it's a new thing. 102:26 I'm sure you've seen on TikTok where now journalists are now… You know, in court, following, running after. They just said this about you. You know what I mean? It's a new way of reporting. And it's never going to go away. Did it do the work that it wanted to do? 102:41 Because why must people now subscribe and like... They wanted to get more subscribers. 102:47 I suppose it did. But I mean like... Majority of the people watched the whole video on Twitter and TikTok. 102:57 I was one of those people. Do you have a shout out? 103:00 I had a shout out to somebody before we go. 103:02 Shout out to… So with regards to the inquest, this information is still like fresh from the SABC News. So the NPA has not ruled out the possibility that a criminal case can be opened in connection with the death of the 22-year-old Aniletembe who died in April 2021. So what that means is that if there is a possibility of something nefarious and so on, there can be a criminal case that is opened immediately. 103:30 Yeah, but it's a criminal case against a deceased person. Against who? 103:33 A deceased, yeah. 103:34 So what's… Okay, yeah. 103:37 That's wild. 103:38 Yeah. And also, did you see… Did you see Horei… Kenan's father… was so upset prior to the video on Sunday. But a lot of people were saying, why was he so upset over nothing? But he didn't know what was in the thing. He just saw a trailer and reacted to a trailer as any parent would. You know, especially given the circumstances of Kenan is not here anymore. 104:07 And it re-traumatizes everyone involved. And now with AI and everything, you know, I don't know what you're going to see there. 104:12 He traumatizes everyone involved. But sorry to both families. Sorry to your daughter. Sorry to everybody. 104:19 Before we go, Mohal, I wanted to say shout out to somebody. Who was that? 104:24 Something. 104:28 Oh, one of our roomies. Yes, yes. This is very important. The unboxing! Yes! Shout out, roomies. So I wanted to say a shout out to one of our roomies who decided, Jorge, you know, she's going to show that she actually really does support the show, right? So we've been doing the Isabella Garcia competition and all of that. And one of our roomies actually got the package or bought the package, whatever the story is. And she or he… Is it he or she? 104:54 Can we get the name? 104:57 What's her name? 104:59 Okay, her name is Mamgabadele. 105:02 Oh, Mamgabadele. 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